4 years and always been on espn. they always seem to be the most consistent, understandable, and glitch free system. we try to have ours at night. but we've always held live drafts. everyone shows up and eats dinner together and then we draft. we all know each other pretty well so its cool. anyone who hasnt should definitely consider it. and espn makes it easy for league managers to enter draft results. and why not play a league where each member pays 10 dollars to get in. puts a little more incentive to keep track of your team and do your homework.