BLACK OPS LEVEL AND KD

SYN Satori

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GB skill doesn't necessarily indicate a good player, either. GameBattles is populated with just as many bad players as pubs (though the concentration of good players is higher), and you can consistently raise your GB rank by playing bad teams and then disbanding your team, starting a new one, and playing those same teams again. Now, I'm not saying that this is a common practice or that all GB players are substandard players. That's not the case at all, and to be honest, I've never played CoD on GB.

But, back when I was playing Rainbow Six Vegas, my team was only in the Top 500 or so. We played a team that was "Top 50," with all of their players sporting high ranks, and we, for lack of a more sophisticated phrase, ran over them.

All I'm saying is, all stats can be distorted . . . even GB rank. Every number they give you can be looked at in a negative light. Saying that all a K/D is is camping against noobs isn't untrue, but it doesn't tell the entire story either. The same can be said for a bad K/D. One of my clan's lieutenants has a K/D of like .42 . . . it's abysmal. However, he always leads our team in Objective Caps and Defends. He's not a bad player . . . he's just always throwing away his lives by jumping on flags, and as long as that's the case, he's got a spot on my team.

All that said, only one stat can't really be disputed . . . wins. Whether you're a good player or a bad player, a good teammate or a bad one, and independent of any other factor, wins are wins. The "you were only playing against bad players" excuse can only go so far, and the reason for that is every good team gets upset or goes through slumps (See 2010-11 Lakers, so sad). Every loss has a greater impact on the ratio than any single death does on that ratio. Ultimately, whether you play a good team or a bad team is less relevant than whether you are a good team or a bad team.

Well, that wasn't really a rant, but it was certainly a long-winded discussion. The above is all personal opinion, but if you wanted to, every stat can be shot down and looked at as negative.

Well spoken and an above average use of grammar, thank you.
 

Inked Ivy

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Level 35 no prestige
K/D 2.02. Haven't played much and don't really care about this figure anyway. (My MW2 was only 1.46 or so lol)

Looking for people to play with so hopefully I can level up and do well haha!
 

Galactus

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about the KD thing... you may not equate it to skill... but you definitely equate it to whether or not you want that person on your team (at least in TDM)...

I have a friend that's a 3.59 and a friend that's a 3.53 and believe me... you want them on your team. They don't camp, either. They are just really good at running and gunning. I run and gun and have a 2.21. If it weren't for bullet-lag I'd be at least a 3. More than 50% of the lobbies I go into wind up w/ serious bullet lag. the kind where you put 10 rounds with aug into a guy and he turns around (after you got the first shot) and one shots you. that seems to happen to me a lot more than any of my friends.
 

XGC Traitor XC

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about the KD thing... you may not equate it to skill... but you definitely equate it to whether or not you want that person on your team (at least in TDM)...

Well yes, in TDM you would want people with better K/Ds. However, the discussion began with a statement that posed that the only reason you (not specifically you, just in a general sense) get good games in TDM is that it's populated with noobs. Therefore, I could argue that people that have good K/Ds and play TDM would be the ones that I would not want on my team if we were ever going to do more than that, such as GB or CC.
 

Galactus

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I suppose. It's all a matter of personal opinion. But in a GB match or CC, looking at someones player card is usually a good way of seeing who you're up against. B/c if they're on a team, you know they play pubs together, so their KD's are at least fairly based off of how well they play as a team... i.e. I went against a team on CC the other day and their highest KD was a 1.37 so I knew we were OK and I could set my classes more toward my "let's have fun" classes as opposed to "let's stick with what I know"...

When I'm in the TDM lobby, I look at the lobby leaderboard and I know that when I see someone with a KD close to or better than mine on the other team that it's fixing to be a tough match, so I use those "stick to what you know" classes.

And to address the "usually play randoms" argument... in Mercenary, yes. But TDM is where clans go to play. As a matter of fact I have yet to land in a HC TDM lobby without a party on the other team. Literally, no exaggeration.

In the end, it's all a matter of opinion, but for me... checking the lobby leaderboard proves to be an accurate measurement of guaging "what you're up against"...


 

XGC Traitor XC

Administrator
You make good points, and I totally agree with you. When I look at that lobby leaderboard, I get a sense of whether or not I need to use, as you put it, "what I know." To top it off, I've played a few CC matches against Atrocity, so I've got a decent feel for how 'skilled' you guys are.

However, the issue remains . . . For another example, if you were to look at my combat record (independent of the lobby leaderboard), you'd notice my K/D which sits somewhere between 2.1 and 2.25. The range is a based on the fact that I only have about 7,000 kills, so a bad game affects the ratio more than it will when I get to 30 to 40k. Now, say we're playing HC HQ. You've got that 2.1-2.25 figure in your mind, but because my Merc TDM K/D sits right around 4, you'd be overestimating my 'skill.' That said, I'm pretty sure the lobby leaderboard is gametype specific, and if that's the case, it eliminates some confusion. Still, I don't know for sure, so I'll reserve any further comment.

Now, K/D is easy to manipulate into any light, but I still enjoy having a high one. Christmas is on it's way, and many thousands of players will be jumping in for the first time, so I think K/D inflation is on its way. I can't wait. ;)
 

SYN Korbonite

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ahh to update it abit:
3rd prestige lv 10

K/D is a 1.81 :) W/L like a 1.20 ehh I do good but cant help who they put on your team! lmao ahh rule #1 in CoD NEVER trust a greentag!!
 
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