XILED GAMING SUBSCRIPTIONS

[Headadmin]

As I’m sure many of you have noticed, we have put up a new subscription button on the website. This subscription area will be a pay area that will come with some perks you might have already enjoyed. Some of you might have not even known these perks were even available to you. The reason that we are going to offer this area and limit what you already had is simple. We our trying to make our site BIGGER, better and faster. By offering this as an exclusive area, it will help the website with optimized load times and restrict some of our members that abuse the current privileges. Some of you may see this as us trying to make money off of our members. That is not the case! Our community is funded completely by the Council and it is very expensive to maintain and continue to offer new things. Our community is by gamers for gamers. With that said the funds generated by our subscription area will go directly into paying for hosting, domains, basic up keep and enabeling us to continue to grow and offer new things for the members of our amazing community. Many sites for gamers don’t offer image hosting, the ability to post 3+ signatures, custom avatars etc, and we always have, only now it will be in one of our subscription areas. We all help the community in one way or another, now through the subscription program we can all be “contributing members”. As a contributing member I’m here to tell you it gets expensive to keep up with the demands that make our community so great and unique. We don’t want anyone to feel like they have to subscribe to this area. It is an area for our members who want to continue to see the website grow and give us the ability to continue to dominate the online clan community! By offering this subscription it will enable us to offer so many more things and upgrades.

Some of you might not be happy about this change and that is understandable, but before you get mad about it, I would like you to stop and think about the leaders of the community and how much money they have already put into our community to make it great. Realize that people just like you have funded it; average gamers who want make a community of like-minded gamers. We in NO WAY benefit financially from our community! We do realize that we need to continue to grow and accommodate the needs and requests of our gamers. By offering this area it will make it a lot easier to reach these goals.

The subscription area will come with a few different levels.
But first the basic registered user will be allowed to have 1 custom signature, be able to choose between 4 or 5 avatars and have up to 50 private messages.
The next level will be considered as a Silver Member. This level will offer 2 custom signatures, custom avatars, profile picture, a private non-moderated forum, the ability to host 25 images and an increase to 100 private messages.
The next level will be considered as a Gold Member. This level will offer 3 custom signatures, custom avatars, profile picture, 2 private non-moderated forums, the ability to host 50 images and an increase to 150 private messages.
The next level will be considered as a Platinum Member. This level will offer 4 custom signatures, custom avatars, profile picture, 3 private non-moderated forums, the ability to host 100 images, an increase to 200 private messages and any one of our great Xiled Gaming T-Shirts with your gamertag printed on the back. http://www.xiledgaming.com/forum/cmp...hp?page=store1

 

[XGC LegendKiller]

how much do you have to pay for the different levels?

 

[XvBigPapavX]

what about moderators that need a larger PM inbox, mine is usually more than 200 at any given time....will our PM box stay the same?

 

[SYN Jerriel]

Sweet i am going to do this!!!!

 

[SwampyThe Gamer]

I think it is not a good sound idea . the idea of making money would outdo the benigits of the gamer and get to a proportion that it would be a buisness more than a commuity . a community is a group of people doing things for one another . a buisness is is that of to make money and it's money will out way the community . web sites are not that expinsive and as a corporation you find ways of making money such as charity benifits and orginizing paid events . now that i said that what is your next step to orginize events that we haft to pay for . what you offer to the community for free is less than myspace offers its community and there is no benifit in making our members pay to get dif avatars.and to allow members to have unmoderated forums is absurd in our community with rules . i understand wanting to help the community grow and i understand helping pay for the web site . but your idea im my opinion is stupid and in the benifit of those who pay and not to benifit of the gamer . i already pointed out just one major problem i see with it in having unmoderated forums / shall i go on . I also seen how you put in there it is not to make money but to benitfit our gamers and our website . are you willing to post the corprations taxes to show the earnings of its buisness to show the members of our community that they are not being scammed and for our leaders not the council who make nothing but give up more time than the council to make our community work . i think this is somethin that should be voted on by the leaders of xg and not by some council members who decided this without council from its leaders . as a leader of the community i feel that it is a unsound descition on this , and i see concerm from and for other leaders who want to know , as a leader of the community do i haft to pay when i spend my free time helping the community grow and do my leadership role . there are too many what if and why's and what abouts that i think you have not looked at in the hopes of making these subscriptions a paid service . i do not agree with the way it was done and i do not agree in making some mebers pay to get extra added options that obviously will come to the conclution of its members bein able to do what ever they want in forums without someone overseeing them . Further more i think it will be a bad for morale and bad for the idea and outlook for xiled gaming . i do not think i want to be apart of this for more than one reason the biggest being that the descition was made without whom i consider are the leaders of OUR community . you the council may have started it but it is our community not just yours . we made this grow , we made this what it is and we do the hard work and we are here everday doin what is needed , and for this descition to be made with out our vote or consent i think was wrong on the councils part . This is my opinion and i have only my opinion in this matter because it looks already to be in affect . I do not wish to **** anyone off no more than it has already pissed me off . i think as a corporation we dont have the wisest thinking for the best benifit for the community .

XiledGaming Division Leader
KoG SwampFox XD
( Lee )

 

[Jangles]

^^^ agreed

I'd be more than happy to donate to the site in exchange for nothing.

I'm also curious to know how the underage guys are going to afford this. My parents would laugh in my face if I asked for their credit card to buy signatures on a forum.

 

[XvBigPapavX]

^^^^^ Also agree....i have already donated, and would continue to donate, but i really dont like being told to pay for things that i already got for free a week ago, im sure that to cover the cost of the all together website issues donations would be plenty, we have over 25000 members granted some are not active but lets say that 10000 donate 1 dollar a month, u would have 10 grand of money coming in each month, im sure that would cover it,



Also along with jangles about the underage gamers in this community, most people in KoG and SYN are not above 18 and might now be able to ask for money for a website, granted there will be some that can, but for the most part i am going to go out on a limb and say that they will not be allowed to pay.

And if every member does end up paying for a subscription what kind of new things is the website going to have????

Like i said i would love to just be able to donate because i want to help the site and help council pay for this, not to be able to be an individual on the site and to have my own sigs and avatar.....

Edit: Even though i dont agree fully I Do plan on paying the subscription fee because i feel that i need them and i use the site more that a great deal of XG, so it wouldnt be a waste of money....

Edit 2: Can i make a suggestion please....Since we are going to be paying.....Can i atleast have an Icon in the Chatroom that would be great Lol....

 

[CG Scooter]

i agree with jangles in respect to the underage kids.

I fully understand the costs of running a site, but i feel this isn't a way to make money its a way to gain back privileges that are sucking up the sites resources. not knowing how much it would cost for the different grades its hard for my to predict how many people would do this. but i'm almost certain only the most hardcore users would even think about spending money just so they can have a few extra pm messages and sigs.

I would much rather see the clancomete.com website have a paid ladder that would raise money for the site than to see this happen. just my two cents.

 

[FX Samurai]

yeah, i do see a problem with those underage members who may not be able to pay for the extras...other than that, i think it is a good idea. even though im sure the mods and up will need privledges more so than gens and below...

 

[RGC Gunner]

I think this is a terrible idea.

It was told that the money would not be for profit but for strictly website and community things. Well if XG REALLY has the amount of members it says it has and even half of them donated, that'd be WAYYYY more money then actually needed.

What about the extra money?
Why would they take away already given privelages that have been around for over 2 years all of the sudden and make you pay? That's just a load of bull honkey.

I know about a bajillion other communities that never would do that and just let people have the sigs and avatars and amount of PM's they want.

 

[AmBiTioN]

^^^ I am 14 years old, and there is no way I would be able to pay for this. I just lost my mother and we are getting recovered from that and u know that a funeral and headstone and such is not cheap so I do not have the extra money myself.. and I know that most of my clan, is under the age of 16, and would not be able to pay. I dont even personaly donate, not because I dont want to, I just simpily cant. So I agree with everyone else saying this is a bad Idea.

 

[XGC MEGA XD]

I'm sure this was going to be addressed in meetings on Sunday. I think the concerns raised in this thread are a little premature. This line of conversation might be better suited for private discussions.

I have some concerns about an un-moderated forum, but I'll discuss those elsewhere.

Otherwise, I don't see the big deal. If you don't donate, you can still have a custom signature. I don't know how much money the council members have poured into this community, but websites like this one are not exactly cheap. I've visited other forums where you pay for features -- this isn't unprecedented.

I would also donate if there was only a "donate" button, though.

 

[KoG Lou]

^^^ agreed
I'd be more than happy to donate to the site in exchange for nothing.
I am against the idea of paying for something just to have my old privileges back though.I'm also curious to know how the underage guys are going to afford this. My parents would laugh in my face if I asked for their credit card to buy signatures on a forum.

i agree with jangles, im only 17 and i have worked very hard for the privileges that i have along with others. all of us have work very hard to get those privileges!!

if i ask my dad for his credit card, he would laugh at me, because he is the only one that pervides money in the house.

so i dont think this should go through, its not right at all. cause later on down the road you might make the entire website so you have to pay.

what happen to XG's policy of letting people view what they want, have a sig as long as its the right size, and communicate as much as they want.

everything is fine on how it is right now! why do we need to mess with things that in the end could skrew us up?!?! its just going to cause more of a hassle and ALOT more drama and that is not what we need!!

 

[XvBigPapavX]

Yea it is a little wierd that only Mod and Super mod have been affected so far.....

 

[XGC MEGA XD]

The subscription area will come with a few different levels.
But first the basic registered user will be allowed to have 1 custom signature, be able to choose between 4 or 5 avatars and have up to 50 private messages.

Perhaps we're reading that differently.

 

[Saltrix]

i noticed that i tried to edit my sig last week and it said, i could only have one pic. i assumed it was just some site maintenance. guess not. I disagree, and am a little unhappy with not hearing anything about this till it was already put into effect. shou8ld have been like a 2 week warning, or i would think that the leaders would want to hear the opinions of some generals before making a big decision. even if we have no say, at least we would know whats going on, and feel we had some input.

in any case, i agree mostly with what they all said, there are quite a few questions to be had. will leaders get a certain level of privilege free? They do put in quite a bit of their own time already just to keep things running smoothly. and this may not even apply to generals like myself, i'm just saying it is something to consider. then theres the underage peeps as they all said. and you don't want the lower ranks to start feeling like they have to pay to advance. that is something that concerns me. even though that is not the case, i could see that kind of attitude developing. how much money are we talking here anyway? how often? monthly? yearly?

all these things are just hypothetical things to consider. but it would have been nice to know before it was flopped into our laps.

 

[XGC DEFIANCE]

I see and understand where their coming from as far as finances for the website and I always was grateful and appreciative of them for that even though I do not know them and never had the pleasure of kickin it in a few matches online with them but, I have to agree somewhat with swampfox and I am sure alot of us feel this way. I always thought by dedicating a decent portion of free time to holding down my responsibilities as a leader and being online to play games with as many members as possible while frequently connecting to the website, growing the community, helping others and contributing to an organised ultimate gaming experience was a great amount i can bring to the table. At the end of the day, I have been here for a long time and i have enjoyed it to the max. Whichever direction this thing goes, I will support it the best i can but I really push on inspiring members to join a great community and not make them feel that there is any obligations or demands.

 

[CG Scooter]

well honestly ive never cared a whole lot about the sigs it takes up a lot of space on the thread seems i'm always lookin at more sigs than text

mega is right theres really not a whole lotta point in discussing this in the forum i guess other than to get people involved.

i just want to get this clear i do not care about the money we all are recieving a service here that for the most part has been great. where i come from you pay for services you recieve. I just don't think this was the best way to try and raise money for the site, we should be doing things that gets members more involved in the site to raise money than taking away stuff we've had all along.

oh and thats some funny stuff that the mods and super mods are the first affected. lol

 

[KoG Lou]

and also what if the lower ranks think that the only way to rank up is that they would have to pay?!?! that would just cause confusion for alot of people. what if when a new recruit comes to join and sees that there is a place to pay? they might change their mind on joining, you have to think of that kinda of stuff

 

[Saltrix]

what about ads on the website? many websites pay for themselves and even become proffitable strictly from the revenue generated from their ads. i think we only have one ad on the front page if i remember correctly.

unmoderated forums would be cool though, although i don;t know exactly what i would do in there...


and as far as discussing this on the forums..... in my opinion that is what the forums are for, discussion. no, everyone is not going to agree about this. there will probably be arguments. as long as everyone can keep a calm demeanor, and hold no ill will in the end, i see no problem with it. it is after all an issue that effects everyone, not just 2 people priv messaging each other.