XILED GAMING SUBSCRIPTIONS

[XGC xOCMx XC]

Wow you guys. No one is saying you have to pay to use this awesome website! There are a lot of assumptions going on here. Most of you are assuming that there is some back room deal to put money in the council member's pockets. First of all it is their website. Let's just say over time that they do bring in more money than they put out, so what? They own the corporation and didn't form that corporation to lose money (nor do I believe that it's a non profit corp, but don't know for sure). This has no effect on anything at all, except a frigging sig and avatar. The word privileges is being thrown around too much here as well. These things are just features. It's not like you can't possibly post in a thread without your sig or avatar.

I am really shocked to see some of our member's and in fact leader's utter disgust toward the council over this. To curse them and leave the community over wether or not you can have a sig and some other features here on the site is ludicrous!

To respond to some of the other attacks I have seen here would be futile. I am not saying you all are not entitiled or that I don't respect your opinion, but this is my personal opinion. I agree that this all must be discussed on Sunday. For those of you not in leadership, please feel free to share your concerns over this to your section leader or higher so that we can present them to the council.

 

[Ninja x Venom]

I could really care less about all the website...I only have a problem with the inbox thing...50 messages? That's kinda harsh...I'm 17 and my parents won't let me donate. Underageness for the lose...

 

[o NEMESYS o]

A CALMING NOTE

A calming note

Exactly, well said mom. It is not an outrageous thing to assume that people who run a website cannot profit from it. They should...it is after all their money and time spent to bring it to you, the gamer. A business is a business. Period, regardless of what it actually costs...What I said still stands though...more information would have made this a much less discussed subject. Many individuals tend to take things the wrong way or get angry, what for? This is not something to be angry about...just something to question if you do not understand. The answers will come soon enough and then everyone can decide what to do with themselves once they have those answers. The group of people who made this site are business people...If you ran a business, would you be okay in doing it for free...forever? I think not. So I'll have to agree with mom here and say we should all probably chill out a bit and wait and see whats coming. Im sure this will all be figured out soon enough.

 

[SwampyThe Gamer]

I agree this is a descution & allthough i expess feelings in my posts . it is about my concerns , i do agree the council has paid for the website . & i do apretiate all of it . i just have questions wich how it was done is all . we have alot of smart people in our community who can help discuss better ideas for all of us . and that is what this thread was obviously created for . or else it would of been closed by now . we all should express our concerns and comments . but we should not be getting upset and leave , we all in xg have these open forums so we can communicate . so i agree do not jump ahead of ourselfs and calm down , and discuss our concerns in a calm manner and i do ask for no one to leave the community !! do not Leave please .

 

[XGC HYLANDER XC]

I think this is a terrible idea.

It was told that the money would not be for profit but for strictly website and community things. Well if XG REALLY has the amount of members it says it has and even half of them donated, that'd be WAYYYY more money then actually needed.

What about the extra money?
Why would they take away already given privelages that have been around for over 2 years all of the sudden and make you pay? That's just a load of bull honkey.

I know about a bajillion other communities that never would do that and just let people have the sigs and avatars and amount of PM's they want.

A bajillion other communities?

Please enlighten me on the bajillion communities you are speaking of.

Thanks.

 

[KoG Spinz]

I have no problem chipping in. I would have perfered to find out a diferent way, perferably on sunday.

 

[SYN ChickenDawg]

wow everyone is blowing this out of proportion you will still have the basic privelages and how hard is it to go in and empty your inbox. The problem is that everyone on this website has been spoiled for too long. Just because everyone has been used to everything being free theres those who havent the council have been paying for you to have all these great benefits. They dont owe the community this but they've been doing it anyway maybe everyone should be a little more appreciative thyere not demanding payment they are setting it up to where people can still use the website free and those that want to pay can and will get extra benefits for it. If you cant appreciate what the council and everyone has done for the community then thats ur bad they get no personal gain from this website besides the satisfaction of knowing that they are making it easier for gamers to play together accross all platforms and games. I personally appreciate it and will do my part and subscribe.

 

[XvBigPapavX]

Im not going to lie i enjoy the avatar that i got......

 

[KoG Tigger]

I am a web designer by trade and I know all too well the costs of running a site, and NO site, no matter how extravagent, which unfortunately, the XG one isn't in some aspects, costs 125,000USD a month to run, I don't care who you have working on it or how many people. The going rate for a web designer who could do all this and then some is around 25-30USD an hour, and even if they worked every single hour in a 30 day month for 25USD a month, it would only cost 18,000USD. I can understand the maintenance, the costs of servers, and everything like that, but for a domain name, a server with more than enough space, and a few talented web designers working on this site a few hours a day, it wouldn't cost more than 20 grand a month, over 95% of that number being in the billing for the web designers. So I think a maintenance fee for this site, especially a subscription to just have a custom sig and icon, is incredibly ludricous. From what I can see too, it looks like people within this community are working on the site. Therefore, with the server and domain name fees being NOTHING, one of those proposed 'Platinum' subscriptions would cover it if it was around 20 dollars a month, which for all the proposed features, despite the fact that they violate the code of conduct IMMENSELY, is around reasonable and priced at that on some sites I have seen with this subscription service. I think this is a horrendous idea made by people who do want some extra money in their pocket...

 

[KoG YoMoMmA]

This is ALL too funny lmfao!!!! Some of you are getting waaaaayyyy ahead of yourselves, some are leaving, some are happy with giving up an undisclosed amount of money to an undisclosed place, some of you are angry then happy, some are creating drama, some are not reading the first actual post fully!!! Wow, just close this and leave it up for people to battle in the chatroom, box or instant messaging or something! For ALL the THREADS you leaders close...PLEASE FOR XG's SAKE............

CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!

 

[XGC Nick]

I'm for it, the fact the council members fund this site amazes me, I don't even want to think about how much it costs for the bandwidth and hosting. I just hope it's in a yearly payment thing, I can't always guarantee I'll have money in my bank every month.

 

[KoG Percussive]

I very much agree with everyone on here about the information. If we had prices to work with, this may be easier to argue one way or the other, but for now I can only assume that many members in my clan wouldn't be able to pay it. As a general in KoG, I know almost all of my members are under 16, which creates a problem when they have to pay to use certain features on the site when I'm trying to encourage them to log on to the forums more than they do. If the goal here is to expand, why remove privileges? I think it would make more sense to begin a donation collection, a paid-entrance ladder on Clan Compete, or sponsored advertisements. I would like to see privileges restored to us, like everyone else has mentioned, because I don't think that the benefits of running a more cost-effective site outweigh the potential problems caused when members are turning away from the forums. I'm not saying that this is bad judgment on the council's part, but I would like to see what these prices would be and how they would better serve the website than would other methods.

 

[KoG Halos Flame]

cool thanks this will help alot!

 

[Jangles]

Im not going to lie i enjoy the avatar that i got......

lol it is nifty

Any idea when the subscriptions will be available? I want my sigs back lol

EDIT

Oh my, my first post with the new avatar and dang, I look legit

Like a younger 007 hahahahahaha

 

[XGC BULLETHED]

Paying for free speech, "unmoderated forum", is absurd and we should have had it from the beginning. If our membership numbers are not bluffs then we could all donate .25 or fifty cents and still end up profiting someone. All of the work is done all through the ranks voluntarily now but with all the time its consuming maybe they should be on the payroll also. Lets start an XGC corporation all about having organized fun on another pay to play site. Then sooner or later we'll have to pay per member in the clan or per member on our friends list. I say make a ROLL CALL thread and see how many members you really have on here. After that surprise then rethink how demanding this site is or how much attention does it really need. Everyone feels its overmoderated now and most fifteen year olds use worse language than me so why not allow freedom of speech already as long as its in the proper area. There so many secret problems already within the clans asking to pay to have the headache is not going to go over well at all.

 

[oDiiNO So iLLL]

Well I know i'm not paying for anything BECAUSE I had asked the whole XGC Community a few weeks back if they wanted to try and get the name XGC even more out there and possibly even on TV by way of me bowling In State tournaments which finals would be televised (Like the PBA Tour) and i got a few responses from "Higher Ups" that this was border line solicitation/asking for donations for monetary gain. This was far from the truth! I was trying to pick up sponsorships to make XGC like MLG and we all know how big that is. Anyway, Donations are one thing, like you would donate to SPYBOT for there freeware, but taking privlidages away and saying the only way to get them back is to pay for it like paying for Microsoft for a "Community Service" based gaming community is in MY opinion, not right.
Like stated $1 from every member in XGC over the course of a yr is obviously $10,000 + What would happen to the funds not needed for the web site, would we get paid for it? Then i would be all for it, like King says "Are we getting paid anytime soon for what we do?"

~Boss

Im rollin wit wit Boss on this an completely agree cause i get more privaliges on myspace an other gaming sites an the main fact im upset about it is that i can only carry 1 sig instead of 3...like come on now i luv my sigs an it make me not even want to get on the site an just chill anymore. all i just wana do is post my squad list an send out nessary info an get right off.

P.S But thats just my opion

 

[oDiiNO So iLLL]

Than i just notice NO CUSTOME AVATAR......... but ima shut my mouth : l

 

[Rahzulus]

Well, this decision certainly has the community in an uproar doesn't it? I think some of you are getting away from what this website's main purpose is. As far as I'm concerned, this website is intended to be used as a form of communication and organization for your clan. Do you need fancy signatures and avatars to communicate with you clan mates? I certainly hope not. If you don't want to pay for it, then don't. You'll still be able to post and communicate with everybody the same as before. The Council has been sponsoring this website out of their own pockets for years, how can you complain or accuse them of anything when they've shown that much generosity for so long? I'm just surprised it took this long to make a decision like this.

 

[oDiiNO So iLLL]

1 more thing....I give it up to the council for creating this community an funding for the site an everything but if things have to be takin away in order to exspand the site than i rather for it to stay the same cause too much is sturring up over this.............now ima shut my mouth

 

[XGC MEGA XD]

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